tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post2255276128660677053..comments2024-03-28T21:08:05.411+01:00Comments on A Yankee-in-Belgrade: Wall of tormented soulsPathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00241553607254199559noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-44096042194566264562010-04-26T03:02:09.711+02:002010-04-26T03:02:09.711+02:00What an unusual monument. Hope you find out its or...What an unusual monument. Hope you find out its origin.Gaelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05784162697113288888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-11923229006723386492010-04-23T17:03:04.453+02:002010-04-23T17:03:04.453+02:00Hi, Knez! (Can you write me and leave your email ...Hi, Knez! (Can you write me and leave your email address? Your comments just come in as 'no reply.blogger.com) I am certainly sure that this has something to do with pain and suffering (!), so I will keep looking. I will try to Google 'concentration camps-Topcider/Topovske Supe' or something like that. I know there were others here, like at the Staro Sajmiste, for example.Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00241553607254199559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-79975237540578656922010-04-23T15:46:02.881+02:002010-04-23T15:46:02.881+02:00Bibi, I really think it has to do with concentrati...Bibi, I really think it has to do with concentration camps, NOT with Turks. Banjica wasn't the only conc. camp in Belgrade - Topovske Supe was a mere 1km away, towards the highway and Autokomanda. But it is a great picture and those truly are the tormented souls.Knez011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-64266283740716856982010-04-23T08:16:35.288+02:002010-04-23T08:16:35.288+02:00Dear Gibepregiba, Anonymous, and Knez! Thank you ...Dear Gibepregiba, Anonymous, and Knez! Thank you for your information. I think it probably isn't for the Banjica camp, though it is a fitting monument, but not in the Banjica location. I tend now to think like Knez, about the Turks. I applaud you all for your research! If I hear more, I will post!Pathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00241553607254199559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-80639320560931912112010-04-23T06:01:37.407+02:002010-04-23T06:01:37.407+02:00"Petite moitié" n'en sait pas plus c..."Petite moitié" n'en sait pas plus car comme vous l'avez mentionné, cela apparait récent... une reprise du passé plus lointain pour un passé plus récent...Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354559064351144704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-79827345365343437792010-04-23T05:03:55.153+02:002010-04-23T05:03:55.153+02:00Knez sez :)
Since I've been living abroad for...Knez sez :)<br /><br />Since I've been living abroad for 20 years myself, I had to resort to Internet as well. It looks like this monument is on the northwestern corner of Hyde Park (in Belgrade), on the intersection of Bulevar Mira (the Boulevard of Peace) and Bulevar Vojvode Putnika (famous Serbian general from WWI). Just below the St. Sava cathedral, one can see the entrance of the famous "Prokop" railroad station (still being built). Based on the plastic sheeting on the base of the monument, I would say it is relatively new (most likely uncatalogued) and probably has to do with the 22. april and Holocaust commemoration in Belgrade. I am going on a limb now...knez011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-14827214091227102032010-04-23T01:21:10.665+02:002010-04-23T01:21:10.665+02:00this is a monument to the "raja" (=engli...this is a monument to the "raja" (=english spoken "raya"). those christians/serbs that didn´t have the wealth/money to pay their religious tax to the turks. so they had to chose between islam or being impaled. this is a collection of the profiles of stokes where christians have been impaled. or - how the church until today says - of the christians who took the right and only decission.<br /><br />that´s why it´s a small monument, as you cannot celebrate or remember something, that is expected.<br /><br />impaling was a turkish kind of punishment, but it was 2 serbs that got world famous for it because of missusing it. one was milos obilic and the other was vlad dracul, who ruled in romania/valachy, but was a slav/bojar/serb. the romanians gave him the names "vlad dracul" (son of the dragon, as his father was member of the orden of dragons) or vlad tepes (vlad the impaler), while the serbians gave him the name that is the most famous serbian word from a global view "vampir" or the "bloodsoaker" or more precise the "blooddrinker" which you can take literally.<br /><br />his masterpiece or opus magnum was the "forrest of turks", when he impaled the whole first line of a turkish army, a punishment expedition, some 40.000 men. <br /><br />his whole biography can only be recomended.<br /><br />but i think i´m getting down into details ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-73479738493843478632010-04-22T19:16:39.210+02:002010-04-22T19:16:39.210+02:00I am checking all day comment box to find out answ...I am checking all day comment box to find out answer.<br /><br />Maybe it has some concection with Banjica concetracion camp? <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjica_concentration_campGibepregibahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13837500543496484756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-62761677643676608492010-04-22T19:06:36.467+02:002010-04-22T19:06:36.467+02:00Bibi,
I just found your blog. I am your opposite ...Bibi, <br />I just found your blog. I am your opposite - a Serbian woman living in the US for thirty years!<br /><br />I am keeping a blog as well: <br />http://graciouslivingdaybyday.com/<br /><br />Please write to me. I'll be reading your comments. <br /><br />Is it OK if I use your roasted pepper recipe and picture (from 2008)on my blog?<br />Let me know.<br />Ljiljana (Liliana)Liliana Holtzmanhttp://graciouslivingdaybyday.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-37807931006875087342010-04-22T18:28:41.019+02:002010-04-22T18:28:41.019+02:00I'm curious too. They do look tormented.
VI'm curious too. They do look tormented.<br />VVirginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152464973355194995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-23246953890663037522010-04-22T18:03:29.507+02:002010-04-22T18:03:29.507+02:00Daryl is right. It is cold looking as if it is ca...Daryl is right. It is cold looking as if it is carved from stone not wood. The faces remind me of Munch's work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01947142732753014733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-14728973974792148702010-04-22T17:58:12.738+02:002010-04-22T17:58:12.738+02:00Hope you do find out the actual history of this pl...Hope you do find out the actual history of this place. It is haunting, to be sure!Alexahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03620873522996260383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-83713307112015103182010-04-22T17:48:03.920+02:002010-04-22T17:48:03.920+02:00I think it definitely has something to do with the...I think it definitely has something to do with the infamous Skull Tower. <br /><br />Judge for yourself<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_TowerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-45985566230454191142010-04-22T16:56:45.845+02:002010-04-22T16:56:45.845+02:00Odd, interesting and cold looking .Odd, interesting and cold looking .Darylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241795455748298624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-45233237218984011962010-04-22T16:04:04.625+02:002010-04-22T16:04:04.625+02:00Lorsque ma petite moitié sera réveillée je lui dem...Lorsque ma petite moitié sera réveillée je lui demanderai... Très intriguant!Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14354559064351144704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-24730142104599082922010-04-22T15:20:53.847+02:002010-04-22T15:20:53.847+02:00They sure don't look too happy.They sure don't look too happy.B SQUAREDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12510619553483917078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-75815992051555592912010-04-22T14:45:09.670+02:002010-04-22T14:45:09.670+02:00very cool.
I'm surprised not more is known abo...very cool.<br />I'm surprised not more is known about this locally. As public art, you'd think it'd be more known?Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13260829805068114560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-10348879829114924322010-04-22T13:36:14.648+02:002010-04-22T13:36:14.648+02:00What a haunting image.What a haunting image.Suburban Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16135537886717771317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-60915543910517278472010-04-22T13:25:24.924+02:002010-04-22T13:25:24.924+02:00Hmmmm.... I've never seen this monument before...Hmmmm.... I've never seen this monument before. My instinct tells me (as someone else mentioned above) that it may be dedicated to victims of the Ottomans since it does slightly resemble Cele Kula...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-64831093682539062552010-04-22T07:20:25.761+02:002010-04-22T07:20:25.761+02:00Very disturbing reminder of the horror humans can ...Very disturbing reminder of the horror humans can inflict on each other. Indeed it would be interesting to learn the story on this.Louis la Vachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09039777863022193315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-31314908110515302822010-04-22T07:15:08.610+02:002010-04-22T07:15:08.610+02:00I hope someone finds out. I find it very intriguin...I hope someone finds out. I find it very intriguing as well.dianasfaria.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10488357854017358868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-11116072231408393052010-04-22T06:29:25.667+02:002010-04-22T06:29:25.667+02:00on dirait des fantômes qui veulent sortir de leur ...on dirait des fantômes qui veulent sortir de leur emprisonnement, c'est surprenantOlivierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602980523811128510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-41014879705499388172010-04-22T05:06:19.010+02:002010-04-22T05:06:19.010+02:00This is a very unusual monument, but you captured ...This is a very unusual monument, but you captured it well.<br /><br /><a href="http://anarkiesmusings.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">An Arkies Musings<br /></a>Richard Lawryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680320073463221740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-13909538381660300592010-04-22T03:50:23.493+02:002010-04-22T03:50:23.493+02:00Rather strange. Disembodied partial faces--nobodie...Rather strange. Disembodied partial faces--nobodies? Tortured, many of them, I would guess.Dimplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313315926201426600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5080984325144354995.post-10160699470029881742010-04-22T03:11:43.509+02:002010-04-22T03:11:43.509+02:00Weird, strange and spooky. And very unique. I th...Weird, strange and spooky. And very unique. I think your guess about the meaning of these carvings is probably correct...Lowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15305748075301453010noreply@blogger.com